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Article by Adrienne Owens, photo by Mike Spencer appeared in the September 14, 2002 Burlington (NC) Times-News. 
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Co-pastors reach out
Couple work together in ministry

The Rev. Lara Greene was once given some advice on writing sermons: Sit in the empty sanctuary and imagine your own voice filling the room.

Lara says this helps her speak with her congregation on a human level, something she and her husband, the Rev. David Greene, always try to do. They have a narrative style of preaching, relaying personal experiences to get their message out.

``My idea of a minister is someone having fun, not like an undertaker,'' Lara said.

The Greenes came to the Gibsonville United Methodist Church in June (2002). They moved from Winston-Salem, where they had separate churches, but often brought the congregations together.

When their daughter, Elizabeth, 3, was born, she was baptized at her mother's church with members of both congregations filling the pews.

Two years later when son Carter, 16 months, came along, he was baptized at his father's church.

Today, in Gibsonville, they fill needs for both a pastor and a director of Christian education.

But instead of working in separate roles, they act as co-pastors. Each says the other complements them and each gravitates toward certain responsibilities.

``David's a visionary and a dreamer,'' Lara says.

David agrees that he is more introspective, while his wife is more of an organizer.

David, 39, works with the church's finances and the board of trustees. Lara, 34, works with the children and the youth group. David preaches one week; Lara takes the next.

``They are equals,'' said congregation member Terry McNeill.

McNeill and his family live in Elon and have been members of the church for about nine years.

He said the congregation benefits from having two ministers. Most people are comfortable talking to either pastor, but some might want Lara's particular kind of animated guidance while others feel more at ease with the soft-spoken David.

They have been involved in the Methodist church all their lives. But as undergraduate students, neither David nor Lara knew they would one day be ordained ministers. Lara got her psychology degree from the University of Texas, and always knew she wanted to work with people, but wasn't sure how. David graduated from N.C. State in 1985 and went to work in Charlotte for six years, selling machinery for a Swiss textile company.

David and Lara met in 1991 at the Candler School of Theology at Emory University in Atlanta. They were married less than two years later.

Lara says David was influential in her decision to become ordained. She grew up in an 8,000-member church in Houston, Texas, seeing women in church, but in associate roles.

``Some students in seminary had never seen women preach - I had at least seen women in robes,'' Lara said.

Lara is technically an associate, but she and David say that status exists only on paper.

The couple's situation is not unusual, said the Rev. Frank A. Smith III of the denomination's Greensboro's district office. Last year, the state's western conference of the Methodist church appointed four or five couples.

There are probably 25 couples working within the conference, Smith said.

Even with the situation becoming more common, Lara said not everyone has been quick to embrace her. One woman she met during when she worked in Lincolnton in the mid-1990s would barely give her the time of day, she said. But two years later at a funeral, the same woman introduced Lara as ``my preacher.''

Adrienne Owens can be reached at Adrienne_Owens@link.freedom.com

Article and photo by Kellen Sibley appeared in the March 17, 2005 (Whitsett, NC) Creekside Chronicle.

Finding a balance


Gibsonville couple finds serving God and the church together a rewarding experience

"Our strengths and our weaknesses balance," says David Greene. "I'm more laid back and she is more animated."


Together David and Lara Greene share the duties of ministering to Gibsonville United Methodist Church.

Although most couples would admit working side-by-side with their spouse would be a bit of a struggle, the Greenes agree that it was the best solution for them.


"You just have to understand each other," says David.


"We really do get along well," says Lara. "We're very honest with each other, and if we didn't think it was going to work, we wouldn't have wanted to do it."


The Greens met at the Chandler School of Theology at Emory University in Atlanta.


Lara is a native of Dallas, Texas and received her undergraduate degree at the University of Texas at Austin. She did not originally plan to be a fully ordained minister, but when she went to Emory and met David, she says that he really encouraged her to do so.


David was raised in Shelby and received his undergraduate degree at North Carolina State University.


Lara says it was not a difficult decision to serve in North Carolina after they left Atlanta. "Once I moved from Texas, I knew I would never go back. Although I still like to visit, I just love living in North Carolina."


When they received their first appointments, Laura served a church in Lincolnton and David served two small churches in Shelby.


They continued ministering separately when they were transferred to Winston-Salem. Both served small churches. "They were close to each other, so we were able to do a lot of joint things with the churches," says David.


But Lara says even with joining some of the two church's activities, serving separate churches caused stress. "When we were in Winston, our children were one and three years old and balancing was hard. At that point, we really went to our district superintendent and said we wanted to serve together."


"At this point, the kids were still small," says David. "So it was sort of like Lara took one kid to church with her, and I took the other. We just really wanted to attend church together as a family."


Then in 2002 they received a joint appointment at Gibsonville United Methodist. David says he feels that the church took a chance on accepting the two of them. "Previously, they had a regular pastor and a part-time youth minister. So, it was quite a financial risk for the church to take both of us. But it has worked out wonderfully."


When they came to the church, Lara decided to work three-quarter time so that it would not be such a financial burden on the church. "It really works out great," she says. "I get my daughter to school and then when she gets out in the early afternoon, I have all that time to spend at home with our two kids."


The family's parsonage is a few yards away from the backdoor of the church. "We literally walk out of our back door and walk to church together as a family on Sunday mornings," says Lara.


The couple divided the duties of ministry evenly, trading off Sundays that they preach. When one is preaching, the other reads the liturgy, reading the scripture and leading the prayers.


While they never compare sermons or practice in front of each other, David says they usually agree on a theme, so the sermons will have a flow. "We both tend to preach on grace a lot," says Lara.


Although their sermons are prepared separately, Lara admits that it is handy to have David around. "He is the librarian between the two of us," she says. "I tend to go to him when I am looking for resources and books."


"I like to kid her when I hear her use a story or passage in a sermon that I have read in one of my books," he says. "I usually say, 'Hey, I've read that somewhere before.'"


In addition to preaching, the couple also shares other pastoral duties. David tends to take care of the more administrative and visitation side of the ministry, and Lara concentrates more on the children and youth programs.


"We decided David would be the one to sit in on the building campaign committee meetings and other administrative things because those meetings tend to be a later at night while the kids are being put to bed," says Lara.


The Greens have seen a lot of changes to Gibsonville United Methodist since their arrival. The church recently completed a $1.6 million building project, which includes new classrooms and sanctuary.


Lara says the building process was interesting for the church. "We held worship across the street in the school, and the nursery was actually held in our house," she says.


The couple agrees the church is the right place for them to serve. Lara says they have requested to stay at Gibsonville United Methodist for another six to eight years. "Our gifts benefit the church and being together benefits our family," says David.


Church attendance has risen since the couple's arrival, and they accredit that to the congregation of the church. "The key to this church is their strong lay leadership," says David. "These people have a real love for their church and are excited to see it grow. And they want to see people grow in their faith."


One of the couple's favorite ministries is Sundays @ 5. "This is an intergenerational service time," says Lara. "Everyone has dinner together. Then there are children's programs, youth pro-grams, and the adults have three courses they can choose from." Currently, the church is offering a course on marriage, Methodism, and Philip Yancey's writings.


Lara says one of the most enjoyable aspects of her job is working with the youth. "We have about 25 youth," she says. "We do a lot with Twin Lakes. One time we dressed up as biblical characters and acted out scenes for the residence. The kids about killed me for making them do it, but in the end we all had a great time."


David says, recently the church has gotten into evangelism, which he says is very exciting because of the growth eastern Guilford is experiencing.


"Our style of worship is traditional," says David. "These are people who take their faith seriously, but they know how to have a good time too."

 

 

 

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